Building Creative Bridges: Jaime Schaefer on Faith and Community
Jaime Schaffer imparts invaluable insights on cultivating a collaborative community within the arts, specifically through the lens of Christian faith. In our enlightening discussion, she elucidates the significance of embracing vulnerability and connection among creatives, positing that true artistry flourishes in an environment of support and mutual encouragement. Schaefer introduces the concept of "the Wren," a metaphorical community where individuals not only co-create but also thrive collectively. As she shares her personal journey, Jaime inspires us to confront our fears and step boldly into new opportunities, emphasizing that God frequently opens doors for those willing to walk through. This masterclass serves as a clarion call for artists to unite, innovate, and elevate one another within the creative sphere.
In a compelling dialogue, Angelo Envoy engages with Jaime Schaffer to explore the intricate tapestry of community-building within the artistic realm, particularly through the lens of Christian faith. Jaime, a seasoned creative and homeschooling mother, shares her journey of evolving from a secluded space of contemplation into a vibrant community leader. She unveils the concept of 'The Wren'—a metaphor for a collaborative network of creatives who not only share their talents but also support each other's growth. The episode delves into the essence of being vulnerable in creative spaces and the necessity of stepping out in faith. Jaime illustrates how embracing fear and uncertainty can lead to monumental opportunities, encouraging listeners to create connections and pursue their artistic endeavors with courage. Furthermore, the discussion highlights the upcoming event, 'The Wren at the Barn,' where community members can experience firsthand the beauty of collaboration through interactive art projects and performances. This episode resonates with anyone seeking to cultivate a supportive artistic community grounded in faith and mutual encouragement.
Takeaways:
- In this enlightening episode, Jaime Schaefer elucidates the fundamental importance of fostering a collaborative community within the artistic sphere, particularly for Christians seeking to connect with others.
- Jaime emphasizes the necessity of confronting one's fears, advocating for a courageous approach to participation in artistic endeavors, regardless of initial trepidation.
- The concept of 'the Wren' is introduced as a metaphorical representation of a nurturing community where creatives can thrive and flourish together, inspired by the behavior of wrens during winter.
- Listeners are encouraged to embrace vulnerability, as it is essential for genuine artistic expression and collaboration, ultimately leading to a deeper sense of belonging within the community.
- The episode underscores the significance of mentorship across generations, promoting the idea that wisdom and guidance can facilitate the growth of emerging artists.
- Jaime passionately articulates that creativity should stem from a place of wholeness and safety, rather than from struggle, ushering in a new paradigm for artistic expression.
Links referenced in this episode:
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Pure Frequency
- Barn Vineyard Church
- Horst Art Center
- Jessica Latshaw
- Steven Roach
- Makers and Mystics
Transcript
What's up?
Speaker A:What's up?
Speaker A:Angelo Envoy here.
Speaker A:This is Pure Frequency.
Speaker A:We have a special guest with us today.
Speaker A:She's going to be giving us a masterclass on what it is to have a collaborative community in the art spaces.
Speaker A:As a Christian, and this is going to be beautiful.
Speaker A:We're going to be talking about the wren and the idea of what this is and how it's going to be a broader sense for a larger community.
Speaker A:And we'll have that in just a few moments.
Speaker A:All right, all, we're back.
Speaker A:Hi, guys.
Speaker A:We got Jamie Schaefer here.
Speaker A:She's going to be giving us the ones and twos on this beautiful idea that God has placed on her.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Hey, how are you?
Speaker B:Hi, Angelo.
Speaker B:I'm good.
Speaker B:How are you?
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker A:I'm great.
Speaker A:I can't complain.
Speaker A:It's a beautiful day.
Speaker A:It's a beautiful day.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker B:So good about this.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:Happy to be here.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So can you give us a little bit of who you are?
Speaker A:Who.
Speaker A:Who is Jamie Schaefer?
Speaker B:That is a good question.
Speaker B:Because in this whole thing that I've been putting together, one of the things I keep saying is no one knows who I am.
Speaker B:Who am I to be doing this or to be bringing all of these people together?
Speaker B:Because I am just a homeschooling mom who's been flying under the radar for quite a while, almost 20 years.
Speaker B:And in that space, in that tucked away, hidden space of raising my children and educating them, building a home, I've just spent a lot of time contemplating art, discipleship, faith, and kind of living it out in this really private, quiet space.
Speaker B:And it was always my intention to kind of be part of a larger creative community, but I thought it was further down the road.
Speaker B:And suddenly I find myself with all of these doors opening, and so I'm starting to very tentatively walk through them and start building something that's been on my heart for decades to build.
Speaker A:That's amazing.
Speaker A:And you said something really awesome in that.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And I want to make sure I highlight that.
Speaker A:You said the doors were opening and you tentatively walked through them.
Speaker A:And I don't know if you guys know this, but that is a good principle to live by.
Speaker A:When God opens a door, you have to purposely move in that realm.
Speaker A:You got to go in there with purpose.
Speaker A:That's amazing.
Speaker B:And it's scary.
Speaker B:And I think that's one of the things, the messages that I've been kind of giving people as they talk about whether or not they should come to this event or be part of what we're doing is to just do it scared and to do it with like, a little bit of faith that God will meet you there or that maybe you do belong there and you're not sure.
Speaker B:But once you show up, you realize you fit into the picture that the table is set and there's room at the table for everyone.
Speaker B:But one of the commitments I made to myself at the beginning of last year was to start doing things that scared me, Things that I've put off or procrastinated on because I was intimidated.
Speaker B:And so once I started doing that, and again very cautiously, it was like little things here and there.
Speaker B:But once I started doing that, suddenly the doors just started flying open and it was terrifying.
Speaker B:I mean, even just two days ago in a meeting for this event that we're having, things happened very quickly.
Speaker B:And suddenly we had two more speakers coming to our event.
Speaker B:Big names that I never even thought I would be in the same room with, let alone sitting on stage with.
Speaker A:You're gonna do a name drop?
Speaker B:No, not yet.
Speaker B:Not yet.
Speaker A:This is a surprise, y'all.
Speaker A:It's a surprise, y'all.
Speaker A:You gotta be there.
Speaker A:You gotta be there.
Speaker B:These are last minute surprise guests who just very quickly said yes.
Speaker B:And I remember when it happened, it was like two days ago.
Speaker B:I was sitting at home and my husband was next to me, and these calls were coming in, and I was.
Speaker B:It was like my head was spinning.
Speaker B:And I was like, my husband Alan, I was like, I don't even know what to do.
Speaker B:Like, I'm not even sure how to catch up with this.
Speaker B:But it's happening.
Speaker B:And I think it's happening because it's.
Speaker B:It's a time and a season for it.
Speaker B:I think people are hungry for it.
Speaker B:I think God's moving in this area of his body.
Speaker B:And I think it's a way to.
Speaker B:To.
Speaker B:To bring people or to attract people to him in a way that's unconventional.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker B:That's a little less like what we've seen before in, you know, church communities or evangelizing or anything like that.
Speaker A:It's doing a new thing.
Speaker B:It's a new thing.
Speaker A:It's a new thing.
Speaker A:An old, new thing about the ren.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:We've been kind of talking about the steps in preparation and the different things leading up to it.
Speaker A:So what is the wren?
Speaker A:Can you give us an idea of what is the wren?
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:So the wren is a concept that I have dreamt about for, like I said, a long time.
Speaker B:And Essentially it's this idea of a community of creative people who are thriving in community, who are co creating things together and with people outside of the community and who are striving for excellence in their craft.
Speaker B:So there are three components to this vision.
Speaker B:And as a way to kind of find out who's interested in something like this, to make a call forth to see who shows up, we have planned a one night event called the Wren at the Barn.
Speaker B:To kind of be an experiential space, to kind of cast a vision for what a community like that would look like.
Speaker B:So some of it, when people come, there will be some hands on things that they interact with.
Speaker B:Some of it will be just watching performances and listening to conversation.
Speaker B:There will be some time for them to engage with conversation.
Speaker B:So it's kind of really casting a vision for what we would like to continue to do in the future and inviting people to come and be a part of it and see if they want to go forward with us and to do more events like that.
Speaker A:So awesome.
Speaker A:That is so awesome.
Speaker A:And you know, with that, I feel like for me as a creative, right, because you know, my wife's creative, I'm creative.
Speaker A:Like I come from a creative line.
Speaker B:You do.
Speaker A:You know, my father's creative too.
Speaker A:I know he's pretty awesome.
Speaker B:I've met him, he's pretty interesting.
Speaker A:Yes, he is.
Speaker A:And for me, like, I love this idea because it's really broadens my eyes to others and allows myself to be vulnerable and open with a trusted source.
Speaker A:So that way I can feel good about someone, you know, viewing my art.
Speaker A:Because we're always sensitive about our art, right?
Speaker B:We are.
Speaker B:And I think, you know, that's one of the things, you know, the name Wren that we chose came from an experience that I had a few months ago and I didn't even know.
Speaker B:So I had this vision of a bird in my hand.
Speaker B:I didn't even know what kind of bird it was.
Speaker B:I'm not a bird person, but I had this picture of a bird that was in my hands and I was just walking around holding it and I wasn't sure what I was supposed to do with it.
Speaker B:And one day I decided to sketch the bird and as I was sketching it, a friend came over and said, oh, that looks like a wren.
Speaker B:And I said, oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker B:You know, I just drawn this bird and I started to share the story with her and we started talking about this bird because she came over to see my drawing.
Speaker B:She was attracted to what I was Doing because wrens are her favorite birds and she's a nature lover.
Speaker B:She watches birds a lot.
Speaker B:She's out in nature quite a bit, her and her husband.
Speaker B:She started telling me about the wren.
Speaker B:And one of the things about wrens is they are these tiny little birds who don't migrate in the winter, they stay.
Speaker B:But they're very vulnerable in the winter because of being so small.
Speaker B:And when the temperatures drop, that's very dangerous for them.
Speaker B:And for most of the year, wrens are just these independent little birds who flit around.
Speaker B:They don't even really build nests.
Speaker B:They kind of just like find little cracks and crevices to nest in and.
Speaker B:But when winter comes and they realize how vulnerable they are, they actually congregate.
Speaker B:And not only just with other wrens, they'll congregate with any bird or little space where they can find warmth and be with other warm bodied animals.
Speaker B:And I thought, isn't that amazing?
Speaker A:That is amazing.
Speaker B:Because artists are traditionally very independent people.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, and they usually have a very unique, unique perspective or vision.
Speaker B:And so they're very internal.
Speaker B:And the work that they make, even though it's for the external, it's for people to see and it's for, or you know, it's, it's to impact the world around them personally.
Speaker B:They usually live very isolated.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:They're not really built into a community.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:But I don't think that's how we were designed to be 100.
Speaker B:And I think for creatives and for this mission of the wren, it's to learn how to be in community with one another and how to co create together and to bring our different perspectives in a place and actually build one another up.
Speaker B:Be a safe place for people to really explore what God given talents and gifts they've been given.
Speaker B:Because I think when you start creating and operating from a place of safety and wholeness and being loved and feeling included, actually that's when your art will really take off.
Speaker B:And I think that's when you really start impacting the world around you in a really powerful way.
Speaker A:That's amazing.
Speaker A:It's, it's, it's almost not even like for the ren.
Speaker A:I guess the idea of that in community would be like for its survival.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But for this I don't see that as a.
Speaker A:Just a survival.
Speaker A:I see it as like a place where you could build your strengths.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And man, I'm just so happy that God has showed you that vision.
Speaker A:See, we get visions, we get communication from God.
Speaker A:God is awesome.
Speaker A:Always speaking to Us, either in visions or dreams, or we can see it in this word, like, be open and available and submit yourself to God, because that's when the magic happens.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And honestly, I would have never known that information about the Ren.
Speaker B:I didn't know what bird I was even drawing if I weren't already in community.
Speaker B:And that's been a powerful, you know, force in my life, having people around me who just really validate who I am, who really love me for who I am, who see me.
Speaker B:And I think, you know, everyone should have access to that.
Speaker B:We all need each other.
Speaker B:And I think in the creative space especially, I'm really interested.
Speaker B:You know, I have this theory that if we can tap into what it looks like for creatives to produce art from a place of wholeness instead of.
Speaker B:I think with the traditional, you know, idea is that there's this, like, tortured artist, and you can only make great art if you're suffering.
Speaker B:And I get that God can take suffering and turn it into something beautiful, but I don't think that's supposed to be the norm.
Speaker B:I think if we can find a way to really develop and bring health and wholeness to people, especially artists who are producing art, that we're going to see beauty in a way we've never seen before.
Speaker A:It's amazing.
Speaker A:I can't wait.
Speaker A:I am so excited, because what you said there speaks volumes to growth.
Speaker A:And as we grow as a society, I believe that it is in our best interest to pick the most beautiful things, the most righteous things, the things that are going to be making us feel good and not anxiety and depression and all that's for the birds.
Speaker A:No pun intended.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, I heard somewhere recently that if.
Speaker B:That you don't have to look for darkness.
Speaker B:It's everywhere.
Speaker B:But if you train your eye to find the light, then you're onto something.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And I think we are so inundated with heavy things, especially now in the world, that we need beauty, we need truth, we need goodness, we need to train ourselves to see that, because it is there.
Speaker B:We just have to dig for it a little bit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, Jamie, this is so awesome, I have to say.
Speaker A:Like, we've been going over, you know, really, really good gems.
Speaker A:You've been dropping them like crazy.
Speaker A:So I know there's a couple steps, right, for the wren.
Speaker A:Could you give us an idea what those steps are?
Speaker B:So I think I mentioned a little bit ago that there's kind of.
Speaker B:There are kind of three parts to the vision.
Speaker B:The first part is to just build a thriving Community.
Speaker B:We talked a little bit about some of the vulnerabilities of creatives, of being isolated.
Speaker B:And so the first part is to just build a thriving community.
Speaker B:And thriving means that we are attentive to one another, that we are building each other up, that we are accessing each other's strengths, that we are discipling people.
Speaker B:I really love the old, you know, the old practice of artisans coming under masters and that we have this apprenticeship kind of relationship.
Speaker B:And I think that the church is built that way to be, you know, older, wiser people, discipling younger people.
Speaker B:And I'm really interested in relationships across generations.
Speaker B:I think that's really where communities can find strength.
Speaker B:And there's so much in our world that tries to distinguish, like, you know, to make barriers between generations and ideologies because of it.
Speaker B:And I think that's intended to kind of break us down and to cause division.
Speaker B:And so part of the vision for the wren in the future is to just continue to build a thriving community.
Speaker B:The second part of the vision is to co create, just make stuff together.
Speaker B:And that, that in and of itself, you know, you and I were talking on the break about it can be really vulnerable.
Speaker B:It can, because you have to be honest, because you have to put aside ego, because you have to admit that there are other perspectives to something.
Speaker B:You have to admit that there are better ways than maybe the ways that you've been continuing to do things.
Speaker B:And so there's this rubbing against each other, there's this tension.
Speaker B:And the scripture says iron sharpens iron, right?
Speaker B:So another man sharpens another.
Speaker B:And so that really is, I think, where the gold is.
Speaker B:That when we can come together, even with our differences, even with our different perspectives, even with our ideas of how things should be and we're willing to cooperate and co create that there's real beauty in that.
Speaker B:There's beauty in those respects, relationships.
Speaker B:But there's also strength and power.
Speaker B:And in addition to co creating with one another, we're co creating with our Creator.
Speaker B:And I think all creation comes from him.
Speaker B:And so I think he has invited us into the process of creation and that when we align ourselves with his imagination again, we have access to things that are outside of ourselves.
Speaker B:And we have vision to cast for the world at large that they haven't seen before.
Speaker B:I think about King Solomon when he built the temple and the Queen of Sheba came because she just had heard about it and she just, she wanted to check it out.
Speaker A:I gotta check this out.
Speaker A:I gotta see what it's all about.
Speaker B:But what she said, excuse me, what she said when she came was the Lord your God must love your people to have given you this wisdom and this creativity.
Speaker B:That it wasn't for King Solomon to boast about what he had, but it was for all the people.
Speaker B:So that beauty and that wisdom that God instilled in King Solomon was for everyone.
Speaker B:And it even impacted neighboring kingdoms.
Speaker B:And so I believe that for this season of the church and creatives and that the arts, art and faith spaces, that if we can align ourselves with God's imagination, it's going to transform the world.
Speaker B:So that's the second part of it.
Speaker B:So we have thriving community, co creation and then the second part is excellence.
Speaker B:And that all just comes out of those two activities of being in community and sharpening one another, that we have to be willing to practice our craft.
Speaker B:There was a quote I read just recently and I won't remember it exactly, but it sounds said something about like preparation, that you can't have spontaneity without preparation.
Speaker B:And so we have to be training ourselves because when we're called up to use our gift in some way, we have to have been practicing, we have to be ready, we have to show ourselves worthy because we've actually put the time and effort in to build our craft.
Speaker B:And so those are the three elements that I work want to focus on as we build this Ren idea, this concept that is really in its infant stage.
Speaker A:That's beautiful.
Speaker A:It really gives me like a idea of creating and co creating in creation.
Speaker A:Like when God made man, right?
Speaker A:Mankind, woman and man.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:God asked man to name.
Speaker A:Name everything.
Speaker A:Yeah, Name it all.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Hey, I love your creativity.
Speaker A:Give it, give some things some names.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That was a partnership.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know, and it takes partnership to really grow.
Speaker A:This is, this is.
Speaker A:I can't wait.
Speaker B:That's a really interesting thing that you brought up because one of the main guests that we're going to have at the rent at the Barn, his name is Steven Roach and he is the founder and curator of another event called the Bright Breath in the Clay Gathering.
Speaker B:And he has a podcast makers and mystics.
Speaker B:So we will be doing a live podcast discussion at our event with Mr.
Speaker B:Steven Roach.
Speaker B:But he wrote a book called Naming the Animals and it is God's invitation to Creativity.
Speaker B:And it's a beautiful book.
Speaker B:It's really.
Speaker B:I mean it's a.
Speaker B:It's a compact small book with so much gold information in it.
Speaker B:But that is one of the things one of the first acts was God invited man into the creative Process.
Speaker B:And not because God couldn't name the animals himself, Right.
Speaker B:Or tell Adam what to name them, but he wanted to see what Adam would come up with.
Speaker B:He wanted to watch it happen.
Speaker B:He wanted to watch that creative process.
Speaker B:And yeah, that's a really, really fun way to think about.
Speaker B:And I also like to think about, you know, God spoke the world into existence and when we think about sound as waves, right.
Speaker B:That just keep going on and on and on.
Speaker B:The reverberation of his voice speaking this into creation is still going on and on and on.
Speaker B:And it reverberates inside of us too.
Speaker B:And so I like to think of that, that creation is still happening and he likes to, to use us to continue to create.
Speaker A:So would you say that would be pure?
Speaker A:Like what he does is pure.
Speaker A:And would you say that's also frequency?
Speaker B:Is that where the name came from?
Speaker A:Partly.
Speaker B:Oh, interesting.
Speaker A:Partly part of it came from my father because he has this interesting thing where he talks about pure.
Speaker A:The pureness of stuff.
Speaker A:It's pure.
Speaker A:It's pure and it's funny.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:And then frequency.
Speaker A:I know, because God spoke things into existence.
Speaker A:So pure frequency.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And I think for co creation, when we talk about lining ourselves up with God's imagination, some of it is finding that frequency.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Tuning our ear to the frequency of heaven.
Speaker A:That's right, right.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:Well, this was amazing.
Speaker A:I really appreciate everything that you said there.
Speaker A:I, I'm telling you, like I said before, guys, like it's a masterclass.
Speaker A:We have something here that you should be taking a pen and a paddle and writing it down because this is a step by step instruction on not only how to build your collaborative efforts with your fellow community, but also with God.
Speaker A:And I think there's something in that that you all will appreciate if you continue in this.
Speaker A:Now Jamie's going to give us some detail about the wren and the timing and, you know, how we can get involved.
Speaker A:So how can we get involved in this?
Speaker B:Okay, so we have this one night event.
Speaker B:This is to launch this idea and to just kind of put the call out, see who's interested in something like this in the future.
Speaker B:It's going to take place on Saturday, February 22nd at the Barn Vineyard Church in Landenburg, Pennsylvania.
Speaker B:You do need tickets to attend and you can go on the Barn Vineyard Church website to their event link and you'll find a link to the tickets.
Speaker B:It's going to be from 6 to 10pm it's going to include some really fun stuff.
Speaker B:We have Horst Art center from Manheim, Pennsylvania, will be here.
Speaker B:They are going to sponsor a collaborative art project that gets made during the event, and every guest who attends gets to participate.
Speaker B:By the end of the night, we will have this installation piece that everyone contributed to just to.
Speaker B:Just to demonstrate the power and the impact of collaboration, we have musical performances by Jessica Latshaw.
Speaker B:She's collaborating with some temple music students, a jazz trio.
Speaker B:She is also choreographing a dance in partnership with a local dance company, and they will be performing that at the Wren.
Speaker B:We also have Stephen Roach from the Makers and Mystics podcast coming up, and he's bringing two friends with him who I'm not ready to announce yet.
Speaker A:She's not ready, no.
Speaker B:But these are people I never would have had access to myself.
Speaker B:And it's really exciting that they're going to be here because I believe their presence is really going to show what collaboration can do.
Speaker B:And they're really excited to come, which, again, I don't even know.
Speaker B:You know, nobody knows who I am.
Speaker B:But they're coming, and we're going to have a really fun conversation about creativity and collaboration and some of the experiences that these three guests have had in this space because they've been working in this area for years, and they have a lot of wisdom to share with us.
Speaker A:So this is awesome, guys.
Speaker A:I'm going to have a link down there in the description, and if you haven't already, go ahead and hit that subscribe subscription button and hit the notification bell, so that way you can get more updates as we come along.
Speaker A:So go on that site.
Speaker A:Go ahead and.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And get a ticket.
Speaker A:Come on down.
Speaker A:I mean, I feel like this is going to be something that you're not only going to remember, but it's going to be food for your soul to keep you growing.
Speaker A:So, in conclusion, what would be like, your last statement for those who are watching and what can you give them?
Speaker B:I think right now, what I would say, because I've had this conversation with people who've asked about whether they should come to the Wren or what is this thing that you're doing.
Speaker B:I would say follow your curiosity, be brave.
Speaker B:I don't think you have anything to lose by stepping out in faith or in curiosity about something.
Speaker B:I know I tell my kids all the time, like, God's not afraid of your questions.
Speaker B:And so follow your curiosity, be brave, step out in faith, and be surprised at what meets you along the way, because that's been my experience.
Speaker B:Someone else told me that God provides for himself.
Speaker B:So if you're feeling led to do something and you're not sure you have the resources or you're not sure if this is the right path for you.
Speaker B:If it is, God provides the resources as soon as you step out in faith.
Speaker B:When the Israelites got to the banks of the Jordan river and they were crossing over to the promised land, it wasn't until their toes went in the water that the waters opened up for passage.
Speaker B:And so sometimes we can look in front of us and say, I don't see the door, I don't see the way forward.
Speaker B:But if you truly feel that you're supposed to take a step forward, just take that first step and watch what God can do.
Speaker A:So, Jamie, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker A:I love that conclusion.
Speaker A:That was like a word that was straight up manna.
Speaker A:I appreciate that.
Speaker A:And we appreciate you.
Speaker A:And you know, we'll be going, right?
Speaker A:We're going to be going.
Speaker A:We're going to be having a great time.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:I'm so glad you're going to be there.
Speaker A:I'm going to get a couple, you know, some footages and some B roll here.
Speaker A:You know, I'm glad to share that with you so you can amazing share wherever you want to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But God bless you.
Speaker A:And we're just going to end this in some prayer.
Speaker A:And I know you got a prayer for us.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Lord, I'm just so grateful for what you're doing, Father.
Speaker B:I pray that you would just pour out your blessing on Angelo and his endeavors with pure frequency, Lord.
Speaker B:And for everyone who is in earshot of this podcast episode, Father, I pray that you would just bless them.
Speaker B:God.
Speaker B:I pray that you would stir up hope inside of them.
Speaker B:Lord.
Speaker B:I pray that if there is anything, God, that is, that is on the forefront for them, that they are just feeling a nudge to move towards God.
Speaker B:I pray that you would fill them with your faith and that you would spur them on, God, because you have good things for them, Father, I pray for the purposes and plans that you have on the listeners lives, Lord, that you would begin to show them that you've been leading them to this very moment, God, and that they just need a little bit of faith to step out and be brave and you'll meet them right where they are.
Speaker B:So, Lord, we just close this time thanking you in gratitude for all that you're doing in the earth.
Speaker B:And Father, I pray that your light would shine for your glory.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker A:Amen.
Speaker A:Amen.
Speaker A:So, guys, thank you so much for tuning in.
Speaker A:Thank you so much.
Speaker A:Please leave a comment to that way we can go ahead and hand that over to Jamie.
Speaker A:We appreciate you guys.
Speaker A:We love you guys.
Speaker A:We got Charles Fierce coming up soon, so stay tuned and yeah, God bless you.
Speaker A:Peace out.
